Gordon Cox, Variety
Andrew Lloyd Webber talks performers, advocacy
Andrew Lloyd Webber would welcome a transgender performer in the cast of one of his shows, the composer and producer said in an interview recorded live at the Variety Legit: Return to Broadway event presented by City National Bank.
Also in the interview, Lloyd Webber detailed the physical improvements he’s made to the West End theaters he owns (and the reasoning behind the renovations); discussed Cats and Taylor Swift, expressed his disinterest at reviving his show Starlight Express and chronicled his fight to get his latest musical, Cinderella, to its opening night, revealing that he’s hoping to get Cinderella to Broadway sometime next season.
Along the way he discussed his semi-accidental rise as a vocal industry activist during the theater’s pandemic-induced shutdown—and detailed some of the comedy that came from dealing with clueless officials.
“You’d laugh at the sort of things we had to contend with. One of the officials who was in charge of the whole area from Public Heath England said to me, ‘Well, we’ve done a test and we know through a survey we’ve conducted that theatergoers won’t wear masks.’ I said ‘Really? ... Where did you do this extraordinary, exhaustive survey?’ She said, ‘In our office,’” Lloyd Webber said.
“I asked, ‘How many times have you been to a theater lately?’ She said, ‘I go to amateur dramatic productions sometimes at my local town, and I did see a pantomime once at the Salisbury Playhouse,’” Lloyd Webber said.
“I’ve got nothing against a trans performer,” Lloyd Webber said in the talk, now available as part of the new episode of Variety’s theater podcast, Stagecraft. “The question is, are they the best person for the role? It really doesn’t matter what they are, what color they are, it really, really doesn’t matter. That’s always been my mantra.”
The subject of trans performers in well-known musical theater roles has made waves on social media and in the theater industry recently, when comments by megaproducer Cameron Mackintosh stirred controversy and prompted advocates to respond by organizing the Trans March on Broadway earlier this fall.
Referring to the female lead of Lloyd Webber’s long-running musical The Phantom of the Opera (produced by Mackintosh), Lloyd Webber’s interviewer asked, “A trans woman could play Christine, for instance?”
He agreed, “Yes, if she could sing it.”
In addition to the Lloyd Webber interview, the new episode of Stagecraft also includes a live recording of a panel discussion with three members of the new generation of Broadway producers: Brian Moreland, Lia Vollack and Matt Ross, moderated by Erik Piecuch of City National Bank. All three producers talked about the changes underway in the industry in the wake of the reckoning over equity and racial justice.
“In this window of time, a lot of change has happened, a lot of good things have happened. Boards have been widened, artistic directors have stepped down, new artistic directors have emerged, new playwrights have finally been heard, new directors have come forward. There’s a real urgency and a real desire to make it lasting, and the only way that we can sustain it is to keep doing it,” said Moreland, the producer of Thoughts of a Colored Man.
Vollack, the producer of MJ: The Musical, agreed.
“The one benefit of the pandemic has been that there’s this space for people to listen and for people to focus on issues that they maybe didn’t bother to focus on before,” she said.
All three panelists discussed their very different paths to becoming a Broadway producer, with Ross (Pass Over, Is This a Room, Dana H.) detailing some of the efforts he’s made to widen the pool of producers on his own shows.
“Right now there are only a couple of ways [to become a producer]. Either another career path within the theater or raising money and bringing wealth to the table. There’ve got to be more ways to get in that room and get more experience,” he said.